stretching scale dwgs

#1
Hello,

Is there any solution to stretch a scaled drawing. For Example a have a 1'-3" horozontal line the endpoint is connected to vertical 5" line. I want to stretch the horizontal line to 6" lenght. BTW this will work if you use coordinate.

Thanks,
Ronald

#3
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by john gaunt:
Why can't you just use the Stretch command? Or Length command?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is no length command. I already used stretch command. But what I'am saying is that when you try to stretch the scaled drawing puting 5" or any number to the command bar. There is no response.

BTW thank you for your response

#4
Ah, that's direct distance entry. It works in some versions and not others. It works in Bricscad V4 & V5, it worked in Icad 98 when Dragmode was turned off but that trick did not work in some other versions.
Editlen was the command I was referring to.

#5
we have a lot of problem here in updated ICAD5. BTW the default when you save the CAD is 2004. so how can i modify it to make the default as CAD2000. We have a lot of problem here in NEW VERSIONS

Please advise

#6
we have a lot of problem here in updated ICAD5. BTW the default when you save the CAD is 2004. so how can i modify it to make the default as CAD2000. We have a lot of problem here in NEW VERSIONS

Please advise

#7
In Bricscad's V5 it's Options>General>Save/default format - only goes up to 2000. I have it set at R14.
Is it the file format you are having trouble with, or is it the program? I have trouble with some files from Autocad and some Autocad users have (minor) trouble with my drawings unless I save them from Icad-98 which I still keep installed for this one purpose.

#8
it is in the program. We have a lots of drawings made in CAD2000. fortunately when i upgrade the version from 4 to 5 the drawings open but some like the pointer or arrow of the leader explode and did not point to the correct drawing where it suppose to be.
I have AutoCAD2000 and i cannot open some drawings made in Intellicad 5.The Box telling "Drwgs File was created by an
incomplete version. How can I set the default 2004 to 2000 so the problem will be lessen.
Please advise.

Thanks for you promt action
Ronald

#9
If the previous option to change the default format is not available in CMS, all I can suggest is Saveas (the option to change version should be available there) for every file to be transfered to Autocad.

#10
I think you do not understand the stretch command and are trying to use it for the wrong purpose.

The stretch command only stretches CONNECTED ENTITIES. What it actually does is MOVE CONNECTION POINTS and stretches any entities attached to those connection points so they will still be attached at the connection points. You must select AT LEAST 2 ENTIES THAT ARE CONNECTED. This would, by default, select their connection point also. Here are some examples:

1. If you select a single straight line you can not stretch it because there IS NO CONNECTION POINT.

2. Consider Ronald's example. You have a horizontal line and a vertical line connected to it. If you select either of the lines individually the stretch command will do nothing because you have not selected AT LEAST 2 ENTITIES THAT ARE CONNECTED.

3. Consider Ronalds example again. He wants to increase the horizontal line from 5 to 6 inches. This time you select both of the lines using a crossing window. Now you have selected 2 ENTITIES AND THEIR CONNECTION POINT. Now the stretch command will work. Since you are done selecting entities press return and you will be asked for the base point. Click anywhere on the screen. Now you are asked for the second point of displacement. You can use any means to give the point including direct entry. So, move the cursor in the direction you want to stretch and enter 1 at the command line and press enter. This will MOVE THE CONNECTION POINT 1 inch and the lines will stretch so they can still reach the connection point. So, the horizontal line will now be 6 inches long because it had to stretch 1 inch to still reach the connection point.

NOW HERE IS WHAT YOU MUST REMEMBER!!! The connection point moves. The end of the lines attached to the connection point move with it. The other end of the lines DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

So now the vertical line is no longer vertical because only the bottom end of it, THE END THAT IS CONNECTED, moved. The top end of the line stayed where it was so now the vertical line is actually leaning at an angle.

YOU CAN NOT STRETCH THE UNCONNECTED END OF A LINE!! Only the connected end.

4. The stretch command is great for stretching the end of rectangles. If you select the end of the rectangle and the two sides you are also selecting the 2 connecting points that connect the end of the rectangle to the sides. So, when you stretch the rectangle the end will move because it attached to both of the connecting points and the sides will get longer because each of them are connected to a connection point also. The other end of the rectangle stays where it was.

You do not need to stretch in ORTHO directions. You can stretch in any direction and twist that rectangle all out of shape.

You must use a crossing window or crossing polygon to select the entities. This will by default encompass the connection points.

I hope this helps you understanding stretching.

Copywrite 2004 Jeffrey Hummel

#11
I almost forgot.

You can not stretch to ABSOLUTE COORDINATES. Stretching only moves the relative amount between the 2 points that you select.

You can use absolute positions, relative positions, or any thing you like, but the connection points will only move the DIFFERENCE between the 2 points you pick or enter. So if you want to stretch something 5 inches just select any 2 points that are 5 inches apart, or enter any 2 coordinates that are 5 inches apart and that is how far the lines will stretch. Remember also that the coordinates that you give must be in the correct direction too.

copywrite 2004 Jeffrey Hummel

#12
About setting the default format for saving.

In the Tools => Options => General Tab => Save Default Format setting does not work correctly. Setting this parameter to AutoCAD 2000(dwg) will not cause the drawing to be saved in this format. This is unfortunate.

However, if you always save the drawing the first time by going to File => Save As => Save As Type and select AutoCAD 2000(dwg) then the drawing will save in the correct AutoCAD format. Once the drawing is saved in that format it will always save in that same format.

#13
Thanks cadmonster, you understand what I'am pointing about.

I have a question again how can we put a footer or header using file name? As i remember there are a lot of option there from the pull down menu like example date, YourCompany and etc. but how can i modify the setting using our filename drawings. We do not want to type the filename from the footer.

Thank you for you good respose,
Ronald

#14
Hi Ronald,

I do not think you can do this directly in ICAD. I could be wrong because I am a new user and do not know very much.

However, I know this can be done using LISP or VBA. I have never done such a thing but I think I can do it. I have written a little program in VBA to try this and it works but I have not yet figured out how to integrate it into ICAD. It must have a button or something. Maybe it can be attached to the PRINT command so when you want to print it will automatically insert the active drawing name into the header or footer box before the Print dialog box opens.

If I can get it working good I will post back another reply. Would this work for you?

If so, where do you want the drawing name, in the header, or in the footer?

I make no promise.

#15
Hi

Sorry for later repsponse. because I'm to busy with other suff.
BTW thanks alot for your free time to review and solve my problem.
May I suggest to put it to the footer.

Thank you very much cadmonster,
Ronald